2021 Italian Grand Prix Review | F1 Nation Podcast

  • Joylandi 7 kun oldin

    FORMULA 1

    Phew, what a race! Once again the Italian Grand Prix at Monza delivered another humdinger of an event, full of action and incident. Here to discuss it all are Damon Hill, Natalie Pinkham and Tom Clarkson, who begin by talking about race winner Daniel Ricciardo’s remarkable weekend and recent uptick in form. Then they get into the thorny subject of Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen’s latest clash and whether it sets a precedent moving forwards. Plus there’s all the usual behind-the-scenes stories from the paddock AND another helping of Ask Damon, with listener questions on legends racing in a sprint series and team orders.

    To ask your question to the 1996 F1 champ, send a voice note to AskDamonHill@gmail.com

    0:00 - Drama, celebs and a happy Honey Badger… Monza had it all!
    4:53 - How McLaren earned their amazing 1-2
    10:59 - A Sprint win + 19th to 3rd in the GP - is Bottas back to his best?
    12:48 - A deep dive into Max and Lewis’ crash
    29:38 - Is Sainz still settling in at Ferrari?
    35:05 - AlphaTauri’s struggles + more points for Williams
    40:41 - A race for former drivers? Advice for George Russell? It’s Ask Damon!
    47:35 - Talking tennis and shoeys with Ricciardo and Norris

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Diogo Simões
Diogo Simões

This Podcast is so trash. 50k views for a channel with 6,17 million subscribers. Nobody cares about what these 3 biased SkySports "journalists" have to say.

11 soat oldin
Real American
Real American

This guy Tom is crazy he is telling an actual racing driver what racing drivers should do and he never raced before. Racing drivers are supposed to finish the races if they're going to win so your point is idiotic. Just made a fool himself with a Little help from Damon.

Kun oldin
navin motilal
navin motilal

This was not more serious than Silverstone....smh

2 kun oldin
PidgeyRot
PidgeyRot

Damon your an absolute disgusting human being for even suggesting someone would crash on purpose. into another driver. You clearly have issues from the past projecting on this.

3 kun oldin
egon fawlkner
egon fawlkner

Nice to have the whole crew back! What can I say? —McClaren!! (gutted for Gasly!)

4 kun oldin
philipp ruest
philipp ruest

Lewis misjudged at Silvetstone where he hsd enough space but understeered into Max. At Monza Lewis did simply not leave enough space and in the end forced Max over the saucage kerb.

4 kun oldin
al ferrari
al ferrari

Nat is wrong about my team we r set for next year not this year

4 kun oldin
philipp ruest
philipp ruest

At Silverstone Lewis had enough space but understeered, crashed with his front wheel into Max" rear wheel - and gained 32 points vs Max. At Monza Lewis was just marginally ahead and did clearly not leave enough space to the saucage kerb.

4 kun oldin
al ferrari
al ferrari

Why f1 has only british journalists we saw how f1 has got diverse people presenting the show but why not here no Italian etc I swear we got races all around the world

4 kun oldin
King Zapp
King Zapp

If Max doesn't start pulling out, he is going to get someone pregnant

4 kun oldin
AyyFuji
AyyFuji

Gotta love how Damon's first comments after the race were "technical foul" (insinuating Max crashed intentionally) and it's now "I'm not saying it's intentional", great work rewriting your comments mate, either pick a stance or don't pick one. Also, his plane analogy makes no sense, there's set rules and a way to land a plane, that's why people trust pilots, they have the whole space in our atmosphere to work with, not a 5km track that's at most 10m wide. But hey, what a wonderful dose of British bias, Sky Sports obviously had it, now official Formula 1 podcasts have it. And I'll catch flak for this, but I say it's Lewis's problem. Not for what happened mid corner, but the fact that he was the one who just came out of the pits. Go back to Bahrain 2017, for Sainz and Stroll's crash at Turn 1. Is Sainz allowed the space, or should he be backing off to let the driver who was already on track through? I know neither Max or Lewis would give up the position in this situation, and if the roles were reversed, then I'd say it's Max's problem, because to me, priority should be going towards the driver that is already on track. And as someone else said, Lewis didn't squeeze Lando at Turn 1, so why do it to Max, and be part of this whole incident?

4 kun oldin
shreeya singh
shreeya singh

the culture in McLaren is beautiful and one of a team that is on its way back to the top

4 kun oldin
Tuomas Holo
Tuomas Holo

It’s one thing to have a great start but to hold the lead with Max behind you. Bravo Daniel.

4 kun oldin
Shalem Jackson
Shalem Jackson

Damon, I did notice Valterri's back row to podium charge... I so did. It was one of the most exciting bits of the race along with the McLaren 1-2.

4 kun oldin
BUZZKILL ROZA
BUZZKILL ROZA

Maybe I'm exaggerating but I honestly think Riccardo is the the best driver in the history of Formula 1 without the world champion title (at this point of career). Unless McLaren somehow provides him the best engine in 2022 Daniel will stay without the title.

5 kun oldin
Marcus Rockey
Marcus Rockey

If roles were reversed, redbull would be criticising Hamilton for dangerous driving

5 kun oldin
Michael Hansen
Michael Hansen

Hey F1 Nation, you realize you are the podcast to the entire F1 fanbase in the world right? You realize this isn't an exclusive english only club, right? Ever considered that maybe you should have some non english former drivers on as a regular podcast member?

5 kun oldin
John Mims
John Mims

Why is there so many trying to give max an excuse?

5 kun oldin
Lego Technic TRAINS
Lego Technic TRAINS

they are dutch

4 kun oldin
Ramón Olalla
Ramón Olalla

Tom Clarkson you are not loved. Please leave F1.

5 kun oldin
Ramón Olalla
Ramón Olalla

Can you please bring other reporters and presenters please? This is always UK based and it is nauseating.

5 kun oldin
Ramón Olalla
Ramón Olalla

We don't need Tom Clarkson. He is very biased and horrible to listen to both on these podcast as on the interviews pre and post races at the events. Please change him. What happened to Peter Windsor for example?

5 kun oldin
Lisa Sunny
Lisa Sunny

I don’t understand why people saying Max is a dangerous driver, Hamilton could’ve given Max some space, cause Lewis had a lot a space to give which he didn’t. It’s not like there was another car next to Lewis. And now they saying it was a tactical foul from Max when Lewis could’ve easily had given max more space.

5 kun oldin
Vinh Huynh
Vinh Huynh

How about the masters racing the GP in karts 😂

5 kun oldin
orio_
orio_

Charles didn't have a "lack of confidence in the car", the engine is still down in power compared to the McLarens. p4 is not a negative for Ferrari this weekend at all. There was no way they were beating McLaren in a straight line speed track.

5 kun oldin
sato toshi
sato toshi

シューズは汚い

5 kun oldin
Grey
Grey

Damien still sour over 94 with Michael.

5 kun oldin
Buddha90quattro
Buddha90quattro

Here we go again, another British-biased podcast from Hamilton supporters to Hamilton supporters...

5 kun oldin
carlveh
carlveh

British bias at work. What a shame yhis used to be an interesting podcast. Can we please get a more mixed view in F1. Everywhere you turn its another UK journalist deifying Hamilton. Hill suggestions make it really plain that he wants Schumacher to lose his record, he lost all perspective because of it.

5 kun oldin
Ramón Olalla
Ramón Olalla

I agree. Less UK vías please. Less Tom Clarkson please.

5 kun oldin
walkwithme
walkwithme

How do y'all feel about the modern points system? The large disproportionate gap in points between 1 and 2 has contributed to the boredom over the years wouldn't you say? It would be great if the scoreboard was closer and these types of results would shuffle things up a bit more.

5 kun oldin
Ploni Kanoni
Ploni Kanoni

I don't think it has got to do anything with the point distribution. In the 90ies the winner got 10 points, 2nd place got 6 points. Now winner gets 25, 2nd place 18. In the 90ies the gap equaled to 40 %, now it equals to 28 %. The main reasons is: Mercedes nailed the new engine regulations. The were doing year's worth of research before other engine manufacturers. They were always a step ahead. The Merc drivers just had a way more powerful and balanced car than other drivers (okay, Ferrari's cheat car was also quick, but other than that...)

5 kun oldin
adam
adam

I 100% agree with the "let me through or we crash" mentality cannot be how things are decided because it's just crashing out your opponent with plausible deniability baked in... Lewis did it in Silverstone.. Max did it here. Lewis' move was as over-baked as Max's was and in the end they know the other is more likely to come off worse being they are on the outside. Max just misjudged the sausage curbs so they both came off worse this time, otherwise it would have been Max running Lewis off the road or directly into the side of him.

5 kun oldin
RYG
RYG

Mercedes is missing Nikie, they need a equal second hand in they’re team.

5 kun oldin
michel michel
michel michel

Damon Hill what a scam, its embarrassing and dishonest how he's partial towards hamilton. lost all respect

5 kun oldin
Richard van Dijk
Richard van Dijk

Damon f1 driver ( miss daisy) Michael, Ayrton, Fernando f1 racers...thats the difference.

5 kun oldin
Zigi Samblak
Zigi Samblak

Time to get rid of Hill.

5 kun oldin
Qiang Arnold
Qiang Arnold

This podcast just became only listenable to British fans. Great job F1 channel, which I thought to be for every fan around the world. -_-

5 kun oldin
tuxedo Viriditas
tuxedo Viriditas

they should make a british f1 podcast and not f1 nation. This is a Hamilton/Russel fanpodcast and it's irritating.....

5 kun oldin
nicholas harshbarger
nicholas harshbarger

The analysis of the Max Lewis incident was hard to listen to. The bias was so strong, and this is supposed to be the official F1 channel, made for everyone. There should not be bias.

5 kun oldin
Ramón Olalla
Ramón Olalla

I agree. Tom Clarkson is horrible to listen to.

5 kun oldin
John Leven
John Leven

Bottas' race was great, but still overhyped. He didn't get to 3rd place but 4th, and he didn''t overtake Max, nor Lewis, Gasly, Tsunoda or Giovinazzi. Also the safety cars were a great help. So yeah, great race, but not as great as last to third sounds, and it doesn't really matter when he pulls it off when there's no more pressure to perform.

6 kun oldin
Hugo Diaz Garcia
Hugo Diaz Garcia

It was just a race incident, so nither Verstappen nor Hamilton should get a penalty. However, Fia decided to give Verstappen a three position behind at the Russia`s GP. Beside that, I agree with Damon on his Checo`s opinion.

6 kun oldin
Michael M.
Michael M.

@ 26:00 Max walks away when he sees Lewis’s rear tires are spinning as he’s trying to back out and return to the track. ( and Max is afraid he will 😉) Then the course worker comes out and signals madly to Lewis to shut his engine down !

6 kun oldin
shenkie p
shenkie p

Damon Hill is extremely biased. And really talking some BS. This is getting ridiculus. A Max hater if there ever was one.

6 kun oldin
SIXITHS
SIXITHS

_"Anyone who dares to have a different opinion to me is extremely biased!"_

6 kun oldin
Lex
Lex

Your bias is making brits look bad

6 kun oldin
Michael M.
Michael M.

2 slow pit stops ? = God’s will ? God’s a McClaren fan ?

6 kun oldin
Michael M.
Michael M.

Damon at 14:50. Right on ! Also I don’t think this was “ intentional “ ( left brain) but his right brain may have sent the message “ I’m ahead by 5pts “if we both crash 💥 “

6 kun oldin
AuditoryImpression
AuditoryImpression

Damon is very biased. Anyway, SO happy for Ricciardo and McLaren.

6 kun oldin
boing615
boing615

There should be a tin top race at every event with all the current drivers, no points allocated, no championship, just a chance to be a hooligan for 20 laps and have fun.

6 kun oldin
boing615
boing615

@ArmorMaciek For Fun.

3 kun oldin
ArmorMaciek
ArmorMaciek

Why?

3 kun oldin
F1 Simracing DenyVPS
F1 Simracing DenyVPS

Stop blaming Max. You say that the Dutch people look with orange glasses at everything, but Damon you are no better!! Have you forgotten what you did to Schumacher in England at the time .... you just smashed him off .... or did you happen to forget!!👎🏼👎🏼

6 kun oldin
Soiz
Soiz

Yeah that's enough of this podcast for me... Listening to the Silverstone one and this one is just mind boggling to me

6 kun oldin
QuintenS4F1
QuintenS4F1

The great british bias, as alonos said

6 kun oldin
Soiz
Soiz

@SIXITHS whatever floats your boat

6 kun oldin
SIXITHS
SIXITHS

Verstappen drove like Maldanado in Valencia 2012 and compared to the punishment that he got Max got off lightly... You just want to hear what you already believe parroted back to you.

6 kun oldin
Muse4Games
Muse4Games

Quote from the Silverstone podcast: "Lewis had to get it done there, that was his last oppurtinity to get it done, and he knew that. There was so much at stake." Max was in a similar situation here, if he let Lewis go and bailed out it would've been the loser of the race. Now both got 0 points while Lewis still got 25 points in Silverstone. Yet Max does it on purpose and Lewis didn't. The incredible bias going on in this podcast is so insane that I stop listening from now on. Kudos for Tom Clarkson for stepping up for Max for once but Damon should know better. Adios F1 Nation.

6 kun oldin
Orestis Papadopoulos
Orestis Papadopoulos

So Britain was a racing incident but this is Max's fault hahaha

6 kun oldin
Tony Cox
Tony Cox

Yeah,nothing is ever Hamilton's fault, if he fell into a sewer he'd come up smelling of roses. ☹️

6 kun oldin
A Bel
A Bel

Lewis said abt the Silverstone crash, “that was my only chance, if I didn’t pass him there, he would have driven off in the distance”. I think that it is safe to say that Max’ reasoning was similar, as was the outcome. (Only this time they were both out)

6 kun oldin
Feeble Hands
Feeble Hands

You can see but later on you hear the noise at that time, Hamilton was commanding his car faster faster faster as its revving

6 kun oldin
Feeble Hands
Feeble Hands

Its interesting and convenient how they forgot about Hamilton exiting the pits and hooking left to cut the drivers to slow down behind him after his so so pit stop and he is raging to catch up too.....The cars already on the straight were hammering down that straight to the first corner. Then peek-a-book hello it is Hamilton everyone yield for me....

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

He's allowed to do that. There's nothing wrong with it all driver's do the same. The car behind has no right to space until they are level on the front wheels. Max should of back of then.

6 kun oldin
Bruce Wayne#Tumbla
Bruce Wayne#Tumbla

100% Max fault,he should have got a 10place grid penalty,got off light.

6 kun oldin
Feeble Hands
Feeble Hands

Best Race this year easily

6 kun oldin
Diangara
Diangara

Damon and Johnny saying max deliberately took Lewis out of the race was ridiculous. There's a massive difference between going for a move and taking someone off and just taking someone off. That's not even taking into account the role the rear tyres and sausage curb played in it.

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

@ericokurowski I just put up the report below. It even says it in there. Car 33 got only up in front of the back wheel

3 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

From The Stewards To The Team Manager, Red Bull Racing Honda Document 64 Date 12 September 2021 Time 18:41 2021 ITALIAN GRAND PRIX 9 - 12 September 2021 The Stewards, having received a report from the Race Director, summoned (documents 55, 56) and heard from the drivers and team representatives, have considered the following matter and determine the following: No / Driver 33 - Max Verstappen Competitor Red Bull Racing Honda Time 16:10 Session Race Fact Collision with car 44 in turn 2. Offence Breach of Article 2 (d) Chapter IV Appendix L of the FIA International Sporting Code. Decision 3 Grid Place Drop at the driver’s next event. (2 penalty points imposed, total of 2 points in the 12 month period) Reason The Stewards heard from the driver of car 33 (Max Verstappen), the driver of car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) and team representatives, reviewed the video evidence and determined that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly to blame for the collision with Car 44 at Turn 2. Car 44 was exiting the pits. Car 33 was on the main straight. At the 50m board before Turn 1, Car 44 was significantly ahead of Car 33. Car 33 braked late and started to move alongside Car 44, although at no point in the sequence does Car 33 get any further forward than just behind the front wheel of Car 44. During the hearing the driver of Car 33 asserted that the cause of the incident was the driver of Car 44 opening the steering after Turn 1 and “squeezing” him to the apex of turn 2. The driver of Car 44 asserted that the driver of Car 33 attempted to pass very late and should have given up the corner either by backing off sooner, or by turning left behind the kerb. The Stewards observed on CCTV footage that the driver of Car 44 was driving an avoiding line, although his position caused Car 33 to go onto the kerb. But further, the Stewards observed that Car 33 was not at all alongside Car 44 until significantly into the entry into Turn 1. In the opinion of the Stewards, this manoeuvre was attempted too late for the driver of Car 33 to have “the right to racing room”. While Car 44 could have steered further from the kerb to avoid the incident, the Stewards determined that his position was reasonable and therefore find that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly to blame for the incident. In coming to the penalty the Stewards emphasise that they have only considered the incident itself and not the consequences thereof.

3 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

@ericokurowski no it doesn't go look it up. That's why the FIA said max didn't have enough of the car up the inside to be given space. A lot of people think that. Also why Lewis got a penalty at sliverstone as he front wheel was in front of max and they touch. Go read them.

3 kun oldin
ericokurowski
ericokurowski

@Chris Collins The rules don’t say that at all. It says front wheels at least even with REAR wheels.

3 kun oldin
Diangara
Diangara

@Chris Collins If Max commited a technical foul as they were calling it because of what he did in turn 1 then Lewis kicked an own goal by continuing to turn into him into turn 2. At that point the fact that max shouln't be there doesn't mean Lewis can do nothing to avoid contact and then claim to be taken off deliberately. I'm not saying Lewis is to blame, I'm saying he could have avoided it just as much as Max could have. But the fact that max took a dive up the inside of T1 means the situation as a whole was triggered by max but sealed by both of them. So the way I see it is it was a racing incident started by max but then the combination of neither driver yielding, the sausage kerb and the rear tyres connecting that caused the actual accident.

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

When a British journalist comments positively about Sir Lewis it's bias, when a Dutch journalist praises Max that's patriotism.

6 kun oldin
Ryarama F1gobshite
Ryarama F1gobshite

Well said Damon & Johnny when live!!!why did no one mention VER radio while he was sat on HAM car…..this was a absolute disgusting thing to say when you’ve nearly killed someone if ‘that’s what you get for not leaving room’ why does he expect to get away with it?!(Imola or even there at turn4 lap1!!!)VER is a suiside bomber who will not let anyone pasted even if there unlapping themselves(OCO) something needs to be done about it & hearing you lot gloss over it as a racing incident is disgusting wake up

6 kun oldin
Rangifulla
Rangifulla

I understand Damon backing his British driver but to accuse Max of Schumacher shenanigans is a pretty low blow.

6 kun oldin
Ash Logan
Ash Logan

@rich mustoe fair enough. I never really understood how it's ok to squeeze the other driver and pretty much run them off the road though. We've seen some racers this year go wheel to wheel through several corners without squeezing or touching - Leclerc and Norris are both masters at this, they can race cleanly, aggressively and respectfully at the same time, giving each other the required room. I think the difference between them and Max and Lewis are what's at stake. And Lewis knows, he's as hard headed as Max but just goes about it differently. I'm sure Lewis would've given more room if it were someone else making that move, as I'm sure Max wouldn't have been so aggressive if it were someone other than Lewis he was trying to pass. That's why it is hard to fault and blame one driver, they both know the score and will do whatever it takes to beat each other.

5 kun oldin
F1 Simracing DenyVPS
F1 Simracing DenyVPS

@Nicholas Jonhson Go play with your self 🤣🤣🤣🤣

6 kun oldin
Espen Liebak
Espen Liebak

@Nicholas Jonhson i do agree on one thing: his father infuleces him alot. He is a great driver but needs to calm 5% down😜

6 kun oldin
rich mustoe
rich mustoe

@Ash Logan I think when you read the steward report the t1 t2 complex is viewed as a single corner complex for their decision. Hence max was behind on entry, and always behind so the corner was deemed as Lewis's in this instance. Not saying this is right or wrong, just offering an explanation to why this is different to the Austri example you refer to.

6 kun oldin
Nicholas Jonhson
Nicholas Jonhson

@ware wolf Max is a hypocrite and a sore loser. He can't accept defeat from Lewis. Now he's paying the consequences with a 3 place grid penalty

6 kun oldin
Pikachu
Pikachu

What an idiot for overtaking in the corner. Like the stewards said: He left it too late. You should only overtake in the drs zone, thats what the drs is for. Going 2 wide into a corner is dangerous and illegal.Because If your an the inside and ahead, you are allowed to push the car on the inside out of the track (lando perez redbull ring). If you are on the outside and ahead ( you can sqeeze the inside care off the track. So HOW can you overtake in a corner ?

6 kun oldin
Ray Finkle
Ray Finkle

Ask the Badger about overtaking in a corner. He is the king of the late breakers.

6 kun oldin
Tapiwa Z
Tapiwa Z

If Lewis leaves more space on the inside Verstappens trajectory would have sent Lewis into the gravel.. or if he somehow keeps it on track verstappen just runs him out at the second chicane again. Lewis knew this so he was never gonna let verstappen through. Just seemed like verstappen wanted to get out that corner first or none of them make it, evident by what he said straight after their collision.

6 kun oldin
Michigeo
Michigeo

I still don't understand how they see through the Halo , I respect that saves lives (except Hubert though)

6 kun oldin
Steven Johnston
Steven Johnston

This year is the first time I have followed F1. So glad I have as it is pretty exciting.

6 kun oldin
Merlijn Percas
Merlijn Percas

Ah, here we have the biased Brits again. Formula 1, when are you going to invite international pundits to your media team? I thought this was a global sport.

6 kun oldin
Merlijn Percas
Merlijn Percas

@David Brown They do it on Dutch TV. I'm also not complaining on Brits on British TV. I don't care. There are only Brits in F1 media. A international sport.

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

Go check out the biased Dutch media.

6 kun oldin
Jake Muff
Jake Muff

Damon Hill lewis bias much??

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

Check out the bias on Dutch media.

6 kun oldin
leongt1954
leongt1954

Now all those youtube experts and haters that said Dan was finished can shut the F**K up

6 kun oldin
Fuhadul Islam
Fuhadul Islam

I miss Alex Jacques. Hill and Pinkham are so so biased

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

No they are not

6 kun oldin
Merlijn Percas
Merlijn Percas

@David Brown The Dutch media is not broadcasted on the official F1 channel. Big difference there, pal.

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

Go check out the biased Dutch media.

6 kun oldin
Nicholas Hamil
Nicholas Hamil

I think he went to NorCal he talked about a friends ranch. He went and rode some killer Mountain Bike Trails and cleared his head. He does get a free bike from TREK.

6 kun oldin
Hemanth S
Hemanth S

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

6 kun oldin
Hemanth S
Hemanth S

It's already time to 🗑️⛰️

6 kun oldin
WIGR
WIGR

The only man who can shush the Lewis Hamilton bias from FIA and F1 Nation is Danny Ric 👌🧡

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

. If you want bias go to see the Dutch biased media.

6 kun oldin
Double J
Double J

I think we need a doctor’s analysis on a shoey

6 kun oldin
Lachlan McKenzie
Lachlan McKenzie

Damon Hill needs to watch Jolyon Palmer's analysis, Giovinazzi didn't pull out of a similar move and it was fine. Just look again at how much curb of turn 1 Norris takes ahead of Lewis on his onboard and it is clear Lewis takes no curb. So Lewis was squeezing slightly and Max was being very hopeful he would make that move stick (like Gio did and also one of the Williams did the same move after the safety car restart). therefore Racing incident.

6 kun oldin
Lachlan McKenzie
Lachlan McKenzie

@Aba Cole yeah watch it again, analyse it further and you should conclude he wasn't deciding to collide with Lewis. His move was overly ambitious and you will see in Jolyons analysis Max pulled off the same move in the past so much better conclusion to make is he thought the move was on and it ended up not being on.

6 kun oldin
Aba Cole
Aba Cole

@Lachlan McKenzie maybe laughable to you, but it’s what I see and my opinion. Johnny Herbert said something similar as well

6 kun oldin
Lachlan McKenzie
Lachlan McKenzie

@Aba Cole laughable that you say it is clear max decided to collide. Damon didn't even say that.

6 kun oldin
Aba Cole
Aba Cole

@Lachlan McKenzie you can’t compare lap 1 start to this as everyone is being super cautious making sure they don’t crash. It is clear that max decides to collide and didn’t take evasive action to avoid collision by taking the kerb. All the pundits (except Johnny Herbert and Damon Hill) are scared to solely apportion blame to max. So to answer your question, YES, Jolyon being a (former) professional racer, wasn’t being 100 percent honest. They’re all biased and against lewis.. maybe there’s an agenda 🤷‍♂️

6 kun oldin
Lachlan McKenzie
Lachlan McKenzie

@Aba Cole what does that even mean? Jolyon was lying?

6 kun oldin
Abhijith T
Abhijith T

Max is driving like he's behind in points with an inferior car 🤡

6 kun oldin
Hasher
Hasher

Jolyon Palmer's analysis puts this clown in his place.

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

Also what's wrong with the analysis is they don't point out thing's that make a difference. Like the rules for what's happening at the time.

6 kun oldin
Hasher
Hasher

@David Brown ​You win with that comment about history, I didn't knew that. Sorry

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

Damon Hill F1 drivers champion, Jolyon Palmer didn't even win one F1 race.

6 kun oldin
juan flores
juan flores

6 kun oldin
Hasher
Hasher

Damon still got PTSD from experiences with Schumacher

6 kun oldin
ithomas
ithomas

Damon is either incredibly biased or incredibly scarred from his experiences with Schumacher.

6 kun oldin
Bhaskaran Thenkurissi
Bhaskaran Thenkurissi

One more thing which many misses while speaking about McLaren is the most important thing Zac brings to the team. FREEDOM! The team was like caged animals under Ron Dennis. Quiet evident from all literature available including Marc Priestley s book. They were raring to go. And Zac like any great leader channeled that energy in the right right direction. That's why McLaren owes it to Zac. Great man. Hats off

6 kun oldin
Bhaskaran Thenkurissi
Bhaskaran Thenkurissi

Guys, I think u got a bit biased here. The diff between 1st lap turn 4 and this incident is the timing and the position where both parties opened up the steering. In lap 1, max opened the stereing early in to the turn and in the incident Lewis opened the steering early in to turn 2 while allowing max to pull up alongside him through turn 1. Once you are alongside and with the sausage kerb, there is absolutely no way to peel away without damaging the car. So that is why I firmly believe that the blame lies with both for positioning the car the way it was. I think Palmers analysis was more spot on

6 kun oldin
goldencat
goldencat

lol Hamilton fan page

6 kun oldin
Adam Petten
Adam Petten

Ah the Brabham. Quite a driver that Van De Poele.

6 kun oldin
M.Carrot 77
M.Carrot 77

I like how Damon was pointing out all the flaws with Max but was saying nothing about Lewis. What about the fact that Lewis was going a million times slower than max, when coming out of the pits? What about the fact that because Max was going faster than Lewis as Lewis was coming out of the pits, Max had more momentum? I don't think that any of them are to blame here, but the "journalists" and "pundits" have to make give an objective opinion. Even Lewis was declared in the wrong is Silverstone, Hill kept defending Lewis. What is even worse is the fact that Herbert and Hill were suggesting that Max intentionally. Although, I think we all know why Damon why was suggesting that max took Lewis out on purpose.

6 kun oldin
pavan kumar m
pavan kumar m

British media defending British driver...I don't expect anything different

6 kun oldin
Merlijn Percas
Merlijn Percas

@David Brown But not on a official F1 channel, tool.

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

Dutch media defending Dutch driver. I don't expect anything different.

6 kun oldin
Faiz Maulida
Faiz Maulida

Get rid of Damon. He's so bias.

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

Go check out the bias on Dutch media.

6 kun oldin
Coiln Chamberlain
Coiln Chamberlain

Ricciardo showed his skill and great racing maturity with this win.

6 kun oldin
Sir.Craze-
Sir.Craze-

I don't think pinks knows what subconscious means... Anyways xD

6 kun oldin
Bheki Ginindza
Bheki Ginindza

Important to note that in the two collisions Max was Fully out of control, ending with a Major accident . Next, he might not be so lucky.

6 kun oldin
S. Cho
S. Cho

Damon “Squire” Hill

6 kun oldin
iamregalado
iamregalado

I love how all the people who “know racing” because they passed someone on the highway are attacking a world champion for his view on racing tactics. 🤔🤫

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

@Richard Schoonhoven lol no you're right! They can't lol

6 kun oldin
Richard Schoonhoven
Richard Schoonhoven

@Chris Collins Alright that could be. I think the penalty is not undeserved. However since Silverstone I feel its better to stay clear of implying tentional crashing etc. The fans can't handle it I think.

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

@Richard Schoonhoven this has started to happen because of the other driver's. In the driver's meeting at the beginning of this season, they ask the FIA to be harder on them and not call everything as a racing incident. This happened because a lot of the driver's was complaining about max style of driving. It feels like half the grid is against max and team's..that's probably also why DC and webber changed their mind's from racing incident to a penalty from the FIA report. Not sure.

6 kun oldin
Richard Schoonhoven
Richard Schoonhoven

@Chris Collins I am talking about the tactical foul remark, and the intent, not whether they think its a penalty or not. And from tho coverage I heard Coulthard and Webber were calling it a racing incident but maybe they changed their opinion.

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

@Richard Schoonhoven not really jenson button agreed with them on a tweet. Also so did David corthard and Mark webber. Jenson button at sliverstone said it was Lewis fault.

6 kun oldin
Kevin Worrall
Kevin Worrall

Yeah well done Zac Brown for what he's done at McLaren putting all the pieces together job not done yet though but you can see it coming 🇬🇧💪👍

6 kun oldin
Kevin Worrall
Kevin Worrall

I thought Danny Ric had left 😆

6 kun oldin
John Mims
John Mims

Keeping yourself safe and others doesn’t compute with max.

6 kun oldin
QuintenS4F1
QuintenS4F1

Tell hamilton that

6 kun oldin
MattNDallasTX
MattNDallasTX

I just love Damon Hill knows actually what Max Verstappen is thinking. As appose to calling it a racing incident when Lewis Hamilton crashing Max Verstappen out of the race at Silverstone. How about Lewis Hamilton losing out on getting pole position during the sprint race on Saturday. He was utterly depressed during the post sprint interviews. In fact, he was already telling everyone that Max Verstappen was going to easily won the race. Also, if you watched how Lewis Hamilton treated Lando Norris at exactly the same corner, you will realize that Lewis Hamilton races differently against Max Verstappen than he does with anyone else

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

@MattNDallasTX you can. I just learn the rules better and understand them. Max needs to get he's head together and be less aggressive. Until then he probably will not win anything.

6 kun oldin
MattNDallasTX
MattNDallasTX

@Chris Collins We will agree to disagree. Have a nice day

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

@MattNDallasTX Ocon there was a significant amount of the car up the inside and didn't leave enough space. He's not racing Norris for points and isn't going to push him there's no need. With max and Lewis, Lewis was doing it with in the rules it's self max had no right to put he's car there as it was always going to be a closing gap and he should of back out. The flexible wing was put to the FIA before this season started by other team's Mercedes/Lewis just did it in the race because the FIA never responded to the complaints from other team's. Also the pit stop was complained about from half the grid not just Mercedes. Every thing you pointed out is normal in f1. Red bull put more complaints into the FIA over the last 4 year's about other team's to the point they hold the record for most complaints put to the FIA.

6 kun oldin
MattNDallasTX
MattNDallasTX

@Chris Collins If what you say is true, then why did Ocon get a 5 second penalty when he didn't leave enough room for Sébastien Vettel? Also the pass on Lando Norris was legal, but that was not the corner I was referring to. I was referring to the same corner (turn #2) on the opening lap. Go back and see just how much room Lewis Hamilton left him and then compare it to how much room he left Max Verstappen. It would perfectly find with me, but Lewis Hamilton have always talked about how fair he always races and that he doesn't play mind games, but that is all he has done the whole season. From the flexi-wing, to pit-stops, to saying that Red Bull Racing is using an illegal Honda engine.

6 kun oldin
Chris Collins
Chris Collins

Everything Lewis did was legal with in the rules. What happened at sliverstone was Lewis fault, but hitting the wall has nothing to do with the incident at all. Lewis isn't fighting norris and the overtake was also at a different point in the corner. The space rule do not come into it until the car overtaking front wheel is level with the other car's front wheel or a head. Until then the car in front can squeeze the other car out. Max is well aware of this is required as the overtaking car to keep it clean not the car in front. Max shouldn't of even gone for the gap as it's always going to close. Maybe if he did cut the corner to get out of it and damage he's car, that is still down to max.

6 kun oldin
Mood M M
Mood M M

Max has lost a considerable amount of points with his do or die approach. Given he’s won 7 races this season I think he could be a bit more circumspect. He reminds me of Gilles Villeneuve. Mercurial, super fast, but who’s temperament got the better of him to his detriment. Consistency and playing the percentages wins championships, not just racing hard.

6 kun oldin
QuintenS4F1
QuintenS4F1

Hamilton has made way more mistakes

6 kun oldin
Mood M M
Mood M M

@FootieFan1886 Yes he has but he’s still only 5 points behind. I’d love Max to Win or Lewis to get his 8th title. Both would be momentous and incredible achievements.

6 kun oldin
Mood M M
Mood M M

@Richard Schoonhoven Rubbing is racing. Exciting though!!

6 kun oldin
Mood M M
Mood M M

@Juny jaxkson 😂😂 I really hope English is your second language!! But great points and yes, I bought a lovely Donna Karen the other day and I look fabulous.

6 kun oldin
Juny jaxkson
Juny jaxkson

You must be a fanboy or lewisgirl dont you, you have the same IQ. You also were dresses?

6 kun oldin
Kyle Bradley / dUCkslF Gaming & Raving
Kyle Bradley / dUCkslF Gaming & Raving

To make the sprints more interesting i think points should be awarded to the top 10 as usual but points are halfed

6 kun oldin
Deus Vult!
Deus Vult!

Great race, and apart from Damon's bias showing through with his comments defending Hamilton, great podcast.

6 kun oldin
Eladrio RAU
Eladrio RAU

@Kshitiz Sharma get in there Sharma. Mouth shuting of the century

4 kun oldin
Kshitiz Sharma
Kshitiz Sharma

@David Brown Dutch media isn't the one marketed to the whole world.

6 kun oldin
David Brown
David Brown

If you think that's biased, go check out the Dutch biased media.

6 kun oldin
goldencat
goldencat

do we ever expect anything less

6 kun oldin
Señor Martinez
Señor Martinez

Not even here to listen to this, I just wanted to say that after this race I've lost so much respect for Hill and Herbert.

6 kun oldin
Aba Cole
Aba Cole

@Señor Martinez don’t be so sensitive, wasn’t being rude or yelling. Simply stating my opinion.

2 kun oldin
Señor Martinez
Señor Martinez

@Aba Cole if cajones means being rude by yelling over other guests (that have more relevant modern era experience) and being unable to debate objectively and without obvious bias then sure, ok.

2 kun oldin
Aba Cole
Aba Cole

They were the only pundits with CAJONES.. they said it as it is.

6 kun oldin
Sharon Ware
Sharon Ware

THATS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU DON’T GIVE ME ROOM nice team radio Max. . . Not. Maybe you were more right Damian than you thought.

6 kun oldin
Merlijn Percas
Merlijn Percas

Damian? Sure.

6 kun oldin
Richard Schoonhoven
Richard Schoonhoven

You're hearing what you want to hear.

6 kun oldin
Polish Eddie
Polish Eddie

Who is Damian?

6 kun oldin
D Sierhuis
D Sierhuis

Hill has the psychology all wrong. Yes, Max got lucky to be on pole but he gained 2 points with the sprint race and widened the gap in the championship. On a track which Red Bull and everybody else thought would surely be an easy Mercedes win. Red bull was in damage control mode and all of a sudden are gaining points on a Merc track. Against the odds, Max was winning. And you could tell. Lewis, was salty and frustrated and looked almost depressed on Saturday and I'm pretty sure he carried that feeling into the race on Sunday. Now the incident could probably have been avoided if both drivers had a less clouded head but suggesting that Max drove into Lewis deliberately is just bonkers and makes no sense at all.

6 kun oldin
John Mims
John Mims

You wanna do a little damage or what max did? Which is a lot of damage.

6 kun oldin
Speeder Gaming
Speeder Gaming

F1 podcast

6 kun oldin
meme GOD
meme GOD

Brits defending a Brit Michael had a bad impact on Hills life. By all respect Mr.Hill its time to forgive and let it go

6 kun oldin

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